Libertarian gatekeepers get me confused
TL;DR below. Sorry for the long post.
So I’m Argentinean, my country is ruled over by a totalitarian left-wing government which is completely ruining us (we literally have over 170 different taxes just to give you all an example of how well things are down here) and in the last year there’s been a very important and notable emergence of right-wing libertarian/liberal ideas country-wide, to the point in which there are now various Libertarian and Liberal parties, and one of them has become the third political force in the last surveys made.
I’ve picked up the ideas of Libertarianism and Liberalism somewhat recently, and I’m still in a process of learning more about said ideologies, and that’s when I came across a lot of people who seemingly like to play the role of gatekeepers and dictate what’s considered acceptable and not within the libertarian movement.
One of the first things I’ve noticed is the issue with abortion. I used to be pro-life before but I’ve slowly changed my mind and nowadays I’d consider myself to be pro-choice, and I’ve noticed that many Libertarians are in favour of abortion, claiming that it’s considered an individual right, while others claim it goes against the NAP therefore it has no place in libertarianism. My issue is that most libertarians here in Argentina seem to be fairly conservative, I’d say they’re more in the side of paleolibertarianism, and some of them have told me “You can’t be libertarian if you’re pro-choice, that’s just a leftist thing that blah blah blah” and so I’ve gotten into heated arguments with some of them which ended up in neither of us coming to an agreement.
Another thing I’ve seen many gatekeeping about is sexual diversity and gay marriage. I’m all in favour of both, I think that the state should not have a say in marriage at all, as much as I don’t think that there should be special quotas or treatment for people who view themselves as queers, transsexual, as M2F or F2M (unlike our government which decided to add a employment quota for transsexual people). So I’ve also run into these people that tell me “gay marriage shouldn’t be legalized, no libertarian would be in favour of gay marriage because leftist blah blah blah” or “If you’re ok with all this queer, transsexual, pansexual things you’re no libertarian“.
I’ve seen self-proclaimed libertarians gatekeeping those things, as well as other stuff such as vegetarianism/veganism, freedom of expression when it comes to certain ideologies (such as communism) (I consider myself to be anti-communist, yet I don’t think that prohibiting said ideology is alright), defending and supporting authoritarian governments (I’ve seen a considerable amount of “libertarians” defending the last military dictatorship we had), immigration, drugs, prostitution, and an array of other things.
Now, I’m no expert and I haven’t gotten around to read much about all the points of views of the ideology at hand, I mean, I know that Hoppe is extremely conservative for an example, but I’ve never seen people say that he’s what libertarianism stands for. I’ve also gotten to know that, for an example, the US Libertarian Party proposes things such as legalization of drugs and prostitution, equal rights for everyone regardless of their identity group, and many other things that most Argentine libertarians seemingly stand against.
Now, I share a common goal with all these people I’m criticizing and that is getting rid of the corrupt totalitarian government that is trying to take every single one of our rights, and I don’t really have a problem with their form of thinking, but I just get confused and somewhat pissed when they claim to be libertarians and basically go around saying that “you’re not libertarian if X“, and when I try to maybe educate them when I see one of their views is clearly wrong I end up going nowhere because they just won’t listen. I wouldn’t have a problem if they considered themselves to be conservative or paleolibertarians, but no, they claim themselves to be “real” libertarians, and I just end up like “what the **** is libertarianism about then?”.
Can you guys maybe tell me if their views (or mine) are in line with what libertarianism supposedly stands for? And is there any way I can deal with them, like educating them on their views or anything? I don’t want to become a gatekeeper myself and tell everyone “you can’t be a libertarian if X” but I just think that some of these people are just identifying themselves as libertarians because they want less taxes, being able to carry guns and/or a free market economy and because libertarianism is an ideology on the rise here and they can find like-minded people in its ranks.
TL;DR Here in Argentina we’ve got an emerging libertarian movement. Many of these self-proclaimed libertarian seem to be very conservative and like to gatekeep about what libertarianism stands for, mainly in social topics (such as abortion, gay marriage, etc.) and they seem to contradict the general beliefs of libertarianism, which leaves me confused as to what this movement actually stands for.
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